R’ Akiva asked them further: [If] one slaughters five offerings outside [the Temple] in one lapse of awareness — what is the ruling? Is he liable to one [chatas] for all of them or one for each? They replied to him: [This] we have not heard. Said R’ Yehoshua: I have heard that one who eats of one offering in five dishes in one lapse of awareness is liable for a me’ilah offering for each one, and I believe that the matter is a kal vachomer. Said R’ Shimon: R’ Akiva did not ask them about such a case, rather if one ate leftover of five offerings in one lapse of awareness — what is [he liable for]? Is he liable to one for all of them or one for each one? They replied to him: We have not heard. Said R’ Yehoshua: I have heard that if one eats from one offering in five dishes, he is liable for a me’ilah offering for each one, and I believe that the matter is a kal vachomer. Said R’ Akiva: If [this is] an accepted halachah, we will accept [it], but if [it is] a logical deduction, there is a refutation. He said to him: Refute [it]. He replied to him: No, if you say [that] in the case of me’ilah, in which [the Torah] made the one who gives to eat as though he were eating, and the one who bestows benefit as though he were receiving benefit, [and the Torah] reckoned together the me’ilah over a long period of time, can you say [the same] regarding the case of the leftover offering, which has none of these [stringencies]?